Nothing in this post will be aimed at insulting anyone so please keep that in mind as you read (if you read).

I've played MMOs since June 6, 2001 when World War II Online was released. WWII Online was 100% pvp, you couldn't speak to the enemy, etc. However, the overall culture was still fairly open and neutral.

Most of the MMOs out there are the same game just with different skins attached to stuff. When I read the description of Eve I had fond memories of Starflight (from the late 1980s), exploring the unknown, discovering planets, running into new species, etc.

I fully understood that unlike most MMOs you cannot avoid PvP in Eve. I've never liked PvP because you have to completely change everything you do for PvP. PvP has always meant paying huge sums of money for the slightest increase in the quality of the smallest part of your gear. That all fine for those that like to PvP. Anyway, I understood I'd have to learn to deal with Pvp if I wanted to experience Eve.

I first started playing Eve in May when SOE lost all of its web services. Since then I've fallen victim to can flipping once (the guy picked up the can, then as if to say "oops I sorry put it back and started to move off"), I stumbled into a 0.4 system before I knew what that meant, my noobie ship was obliterated with the 1st shot, my pod with the 2nd. I've not repeated either of those mistakes. I ventured through a wormhole once, I started exploring, I got jumped by a group of five T3 cruisers that made quick work of my brutix.

I've listened to players talking to each other, I've read some posts in the forums, the trolls usually manage to drown out anything of value, so I don't come here often.

There is a significant percentage of established Eve players that seem to absolutely Hate new players and view them as tresspassers. These players also do everything within their power to make new players so miserable that they leave. I've heard the phrase "Eve isn't a nice place.". Well no it isn't. These established players do everything within their power to run off new players.

While this sadistic behavior may be fun, at some point Eve as a whole will begin to suffer. A number of my SWG friends came to Eve, some of them were Avid pvpers. They have all left not because they don't like pvp, not because they didn't like Eve, not because they couldn't learn, but because of the absolutely hateful treatment they received. I've been lucky, I'm met some really helpful people that have helped me learn to stay out of trouble. Well more trouble anyway.

Why are the Veteran players so Resentful of the new players? I would think they would be glad for new players, that they might even try to recruit and train new players...

Sorry, I'm just extremely puzzled.

Please. This entire tactic is to stop people complaining/questioning the WSOP. The goal at the end of the month is for people to be begging you to reinstate the WSOP. So that you can go back to being 95% carebear without question for the next couple years (when you'll have to do it again to teach the lesson that PvP not on the Uni's terms is bad bad bad.)

In any case, I believe a large percentage of the dislike for newer players is due to the fact that many new players just don't "get" EVE. After venturing into lowsec and getting shot, getting can-flipped in highsec, and similar occurrences, many end up coming to the forums and insisting that non-consentual PvP is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. A large quantity of rage usually accompanies such statements, along with insults to the existing player-base.